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July 26, 2011

Norwegian Ambassador Compares Terror Attacks in Norway and in Israel

In an interview today with the Israeli daily, Ma'ariv, Svein Sevje, the Norwegian Ambassador to Israel, drew a distinction between the recent terror attacks in Norway and a Palestinian terror attack (the Park Hotel massacre, where terrorists murdered 30 people at a Passover Seder) in Israel.

First it is important to emphasize that terrorist attacks against innocent civilians, whether in Israel or in Norway, are completely unnacceptable. I would like to outline the similarity and the difference between the two cases.

The similarity is of course that both attacks targeted innocent civilians and in this sense they are both terrorist actions, but I'm not sure that the two cases (the Norway attacks vs. Palestinian terror attacks) are identical, despite the similarity.

The difference is that Palestinians are attacking Israel through the means of terrorist actions. Never mind how unacceptable or terrible it is, they are doing this with a defined goal that is related to the Israeli occupation. There are elements of revenge against Israel and hatred of Israel. To this you can add the religious dimension to their actions. In any case, there is a principle motive to their actions.

In answer to a question about whether the first-hand experience with terrorism might change the way Norwegians viewed Israel, the ambassador answered, "Almost definitely not."

We Norwegians view the occupation as the reason for terror against Israel. Many Norwegians still see the occupation as the reason for attacks against Israel. Whoever thinks this way, will not change his mind as a result of the attack in Oslo.

Posted by RH at July 26, 2011 01:46 PM

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Despite the tragedy in Norway, they still won't change their attitude toward terrorism in Israel?? Oh yeah... I forgot: "terrorism" is when non-Israelis/non-Jews are the victims; "resistance" is when those same types of activities are directed against Israeli/Jewish civilians. Silly me... When will I ever learn?

Posted by: Ben at July 26, 2011 05:02 PM

Wait!

Doesn't Norway have forces participating in the occupation of Afghanistan? So, if the next terrorist attack is by the Taliban?

Amazing.

Posted by: Erik at July 27, 2011 09:24 AM

This is a prime example of sublime lack of insight and sensitivity, and wilful blindness on the part of the Ambassador who blamed the Israeli victims for the outrages perpetrated against them by terrorist thugs.

Mad though the perpetrator may be, might Norway's over-lax attitude towards the influence of Islam and its ignorance of the true nature of multiculturalism (an ignorance it holds in common with most of Europe) have been implicated in his rationale for his killing spree in Norway, just as (according to the Ambassador) was Israel's conduct for the murder of innocents at a Passover celebration by Islamist thugs?

Sensitivity and empathy are vital prerequisites for true humanity. If the Ambassador is at all representative of his countrymen, then he lacks both, and it is doubtful that Norway will learn any useful lessons from whatever might have led to this heinous crime against her people.

Posted by: Evelyn at July 27, 2011 11:36 AM

This is my first time commenting here, but right off the bat I read that somehow ISRAEL is to blame for the terrorist's bombing/shooting spree in Norway. And the REASON for that? Israel is "occupying" Arab land. That is a lie, one of the Arab's BIG LIES. They learned that technique while the Grand Mufti of Jerusalem back in the '30s and '40s. He spent most of WWII in Berlin. His closest friends were Himmler and Eichmann. He spent some time in Auschwitz. It was while in Germany that Haj Amin al-Husseini, the Grand Mufti, learned the techniques of the BIG LIE (tell a BIG LIE over and over again until it becomes "fact.") and how to commit genocide on a wholesale manner.
That is the kind of lie that makes some uneducated people (uneducated viz a vie the Middle East) swallow Arab propaganda whole, without even taking a moment to bother to find out for themselves as to the veracity of the propaganda they have just swallowed.

LIE ONE: Israel is an apartheid state. Anyone visiting Israel would immediately see that is not true. What IS true is that Arabs spread that lie to cause people to overlook the fact that EVERY ARAB STATE IS BOTH APARTHEID AND JUDENREIN (free of Jews). Any one may become an Israeli citizen and enjoy all of the rights that citizenship entails. Israel has universal suffrage; indeed, Israel is the only country in the area in which all Arabs may vote and where women may vote. Israel is the only country in that part of the world where women can drive, where Arabs may vote. The IDF is fully integrated, Arabs and Jews fight for Israel shoulder to shoulder along with other minorities. Arabs have seats in the Knesset, Israel's Parliament. Dissent in Knesset is not only permitted but encouraged. Find the truth before painting Israel with too wide an antisemetic brush.

LIE TWO: Israel is occupying Arab land, in particular Palestinian land on which Palestinians had lived for thousands of years before the Jews started to push them out after the Holocaust. The FACTS are that there was never a people called the Palestinians until 1967 when Egyptian born Yassir Arafat slapped that label on them so they could start telling the BIG LIES that the Jews had taken over their ancestral land. STOP HERE AND THINK ABOUT HOW MANY JEWS WERE ON THE LAND PRIOR TO WWII, THEN HOW IN THE WORLD COULD a million or two of Jews could take over a land when hundreds of millions of Arabs were surrounding them.

The Jews who were there HAD PURCHASE THE LAND THEY WERE ON, since when is that "occupation?" But let's move forward. The Arabs "forced" the British government to restrict Jewish emigration JUST AS THE HOLOCAUST WAS HEATING UP! Accident? I'll leave the finger pointing to those who were there and know better.

LIE THREE: Gaza is a large prison in which Arabs are starving to death and are being maltreated by their Israeli masters. Damn it! Go to the Gaza border with Israel. Why are trucks going in and out? What is in those trucks? Why don't we see starving children as we are seeing them in Africa? Because Israel is supplying them with the necessities of life. Go into an Arab grocery in Gaza. Oooo, what is that we see? A modern supermarket that could be in the United States, Israel, Germany, Australia...aisles of food with Israeli and Arabic printing. Israel is also supplying them with electricity, water...damn those Jews for being so war like. That's what enemies do in all wars, feed their enemies.

LIE FOUR: Israel is violating UN Resolution 242. Nope! They are not. Google the resolution and READ WHAT IT SAYS. But don't you DARE overlook the entire resolution; it is only one page long. Article I, subsection (i) reads, "Withdrawal of Israel armed forces from territories occupied in the recent conflict;" SEE, they haven't done that so they are in V-I-O-L-A-T-I-O-N of 242, right? NO WAY! ARABS started the war so they have a part to play in 242 and THEY are in violation of their part of the resolution.

Subsection (ii) says, "Termination of all claims or states of belligerency and respect for and acknowledgment of the sovereignty, territorial integrity and political independence of every State in the area and their right to live in peace with secure and recognized boundaries free fro threats of acts of force;"

Ta-daa! First, nowhere in 242 does it say that Israel has to withdraw from ALL territories; despite the fact that both the Egyptian and Soviet Union representatives wanted the word ALL in there. But more importantly, Israel is ready and waiting for the Arabs to permit a Jewish state to exist adjacent to the Arab states.

The Charter of Hamas states very clearly that they will not negotiate with Israel, will not permit Israel to exist and there is another "no" that I cannot recall at the moment. Now that Abbas has embraced the terrorist group Hamas, there is no chance for peace in the Middle East UNLESS Israelis hold hands and walk into the ocean.

Therefore, as we have just PROVEN, Israel is willing to do their part of 242; the Arabs are NOT. They consider the ENTIRE STATE OF ISRAEL AS BEING ON OCCUPIED LAND. There are lies, and then there are damned lies; that idea is a damned lie.

I'm going to stop at this point because if people do not understand who is the villain in the Middle East by now, they never will. There MUST be a Jewish State because without it, we are denied citizenship in the majority of the countries in the world. We will never move out, so we can rest easy knowing that this situation is going to continue beyond our time on this planet and our children's and grand, grand grand children's time. Until the Arabs accept a Jewish state; it will always remain an oozing sore.

Posted by: DownTheThink at July 28, 2011 03:17 PM

As noted elsewhere, if Bin Laden had killed mostly or only Jews, not only would he not have been targeted for death, he's have gotten a Nobel Peace Prize & permanent guest room in the White House, a la Arafat. Had the Norwegian killed mostly Jews, he'd be a praised celebrity, invited to all the talk shows, etc ...

Posted by: Sam at August 7, 2011 04:33 PM

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