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July 19, 2007

CSMonitor Calls Israel's Creation an 'Injustice'

Among other such gems, the July 18, 2007 Christian Science Monitor editorial calls Israel's creation an "injustice done to [Palestinians]."

No injustice was "done to the [Palestinians]" by the creation of Israel. The plight of Palestinian Arabs was "done to them" by their own active participation in a failed war of aggression, or passive collaboration in it. Had the Arabs not violently rejected the UN's 1947 partition plan to divide Palestine into a Jewish country and an Arab country, the Palestinian Arabs would have had their own country nearly 60 years ago and would not have been political pawns of Arab extremists ever since.

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Commentary > The Monitor's View

from the July 18, 2007 edition

Bush's final push for a Palestine

The US must push Israel for big concessions at the peace conference to win over even Hamas backers.
With 18 months left in office, President Bush may try to pull a rabbit out of the thread-bare Middle East hat. No, probably not in Iraq. Rather, in trying to forge a Palestine - if, that is, he can be even-handed about it.

On Monday, he called for an international conference this fall to negotiate the creation of a Palestinian state that can exist peacefully with Israel. Such a historic step would do as much to prevent another terrorist strike on US soil as anything else Mr. Bush has done overseas in the nearly six years since the Sept. 11 attacks. His goal of democratizing the Middle East is a ways off, to say the least, with an unstable Iraq. And Al Qaeda has found a new home in Pakistan.

Stateless Palestinians have long been a casus belli among Arab terrorists, although removing the injustice done to them by Israel's creation in 1948 has also long been in the interests of the US and Israel, especially since the 1967 war that led Israel to take new territory.

Toward the end of his presidency, President Clinton tried to make a final push to forge a compromise between Israel and the Palestinians. A lame-duck US president has enough independence from domestic political pressures to attempt such head-knocking diplomacy. But Mr. Clinton failed, and within a year, the 9/11 attacks happened, setting the stage for Bush to virtually ignore the Palestinian issue as he formed a tight bond with a hardline Israeli government.

His secretary of State, Condoleezza Rice, however, has nudged Bush to help create a Palestine, one based on moderate Palestinians. With Yasser Arafat's passing in 2004 and then the recent Palestinian civil war that left the militant Hamas isolated in the Gaza Strip, the opportunity arose to work solely with Fatah, the other main Palestinian group, and with President Mahmoud Abbas, Fatah's leader. Moderate Arab states, too, are moving closer to Israel, worried about Iran's drive to be a regional nuclear power and the war in Iraq, while also tiring of the Palestinians' violent squabbles.

What's missing the most in this new clarity of events is Bush's plan to push Israel into making major concessions. Up to now, Bush and Israel have largely been like lips to teeth in chewing on the Palestinian question. Any big concessions, especially on Jerusalem's future and the dismantling of Jewish settlements on the West Bank, need to be on the table.

Israel, to its credit, has seized on recent events to transfer money to the Abbas regime and start the release of Palestinian prisoners. The harder decisions have yet to be made, and, with the US foreign military-financing budget giving nearly $2.4 billion for Israel in 2007, Bush has some leverage.

Israel can't count on Mr. Abbas's political weakness to avoid taking such steps. Rather, as long as both Israel and Bush are isolating the elected Hamas leaders, they must go even further in winning over many Palestinians everywhere with concessions. Otherwise, Hamas may only gain more political strength.

Bush must also ensure that Abbas fully disarms terrorist groups in the West Bank and works to end official Israel-bashing propaganda that incites terrorism.

Bush's father sponsored the 1991 Madrid conference that led to the 1993 Oslo peace accords. Those failed, but left lessons on what the US can do right this time.

Posted by LG at July 19, 2007 02:03 PM

Comments

People of good will around the globe join your hope for peace in the Middle East marked by a Palestine living in harmonious coexistence with the State of Israel. To call the creation of Israel an "injustice," though, hardly gives fair acknowledgment to the UN process that mandated a two state solution in 1948 or the war of extermination against Israel perpetrated by the Arab world that led to the plight that Palestinians continue to suffer to this day.

Posted by: Rabbi Stephen Fuchs at July 19, 2007 04:20 PM

The suggestion that Israel's creation was an injustice visited upon the palestinians is a grossly incorrect and nefarious reading of history. The only source of injustice which has been visited on the arabs of the region has been other arabs.

Posted by: Steven M. Levy at July 19, 2007 04:30 PM

To carl the creation of Israel an "injustice" is itself an injustice!

Posted by: amy schaffer at July 19, 2007 04:33 PM

The creation of Israel isn't what created the Palestinian refugee problem. Over one million Palestinian live in Israel as citizens. The Arab worlds rejection of Israel and their attack on it started the 1948 war and created the refugee problem that persists to this day.The Arab countries can settle the Palestinian problem but accepted these fellow Arabs as citizens in their countries as Israel has.

Posted by: George at July 19, 2007 04:41 PM

This article fails to remember that Israel was created by the United Nations in 1948 as part of a two state plan. The Palestinian people have been used as political pawns by their leaders and by the other Arab nations since that time. To call the creation of Israel an injustice neglects not only history but the also the knowledge that Israel is legally, ethically and morally established as a homeland for the Jewish people.

Posted by: elaine kahaner at July 19, 2007 04:48 PM

Israel Wants Peace. But it insults the memory of the historically persecuted Jewish people who reconstituted the ancient state of Israel in perhaps the greatest miracle of the 20th century to call this "injustice". What is "injustice" is the persistent hatred by Arab/Muslims of Jews. What is "injustice" is the double standard applied to Israel vs. other countries that respond to terrorism. What is "injustice" is how the Arab brethren of the Palestinians have let them stew in 'camps' rather than integrating them into Arab states, as the Jews did with the Jewish refugees who moved to Israel. A Palestinian state would DO NOTHING to remove the problem of the worldwide Jihad or make America one iota safer. There is no relationship except in the imagination of journalists and the propaganda of ARab nations between the Islamofascist desire to destroy Israel and the West and the Palestinian lack of a state.

Posted by: dave street at July 19, 2007 04:49 PM

the creation of Israel as a separate state was merely a recognition of the presence of Jews in the area for many centuries. I view this act as an affirmative action for the centuries of sufferage and humilation the Jews have had to endure. All minorities that have experienced injustice have asked for affirmative action. Why not the Jews?

Posted by: phil at July 19, 2007 04:54 PM

I fail to understand your position on Israel. Refusal to accept a social democracy in the middle of a region that mostly practices a religion that calls those it opposes "Satans" and "crusaders" to indicate their dislike of all religions particularly those who believe Christ is the savior and redeemer, not Mohamed.

You sound as if you would rather have to deal with them than with the Israelis. Why?

I also wonder why mwntioning the U.S. contribution to Isreal's military needs has anything to do with the discussion. Bush has no influence because he is a lame duck and one who has lost all credibiility throughout the world. So who cares that he gives Egypt more than anyone else in the world, that his party helped arm Iran illegally under Reagan, or that giving in to thugs like the group still firing rockets into Israel has any relation to the UN supllying them with more than $2.5 billion in aid which somehow wound up as ammunition and arms purchases.

Be Christian as well as Scientific and stick with those who are not out to harm you.

Perry Luntz, wounded American serviceman who loves his country even though he's Jewish.

Posted by: PERRY LUNTZ`` at July 19, 2007 04:55 PM

I fail to understand your position on Israel. Refusal to accept a social democracy in the middle of a region that mostly practices a religion that calls those it opposes "Satans" and "crusaders" to indicate their dislike of all religions particularly those who believe Christ is the savior and redeemer, not Mohamed.

You sound as if you would rather have to deal with them than with the Israelis. Why?

I also wonder why mwntioning the U.S. contribution to Isreal's military needs has anything to do with the discussion. Bush has no influence because he is a lame duck and one who has lost all credibiility throughout the world. So who cares that he gives Egypt more than anyone else in the world, that his party helped arm Iran illegally under Reagan, or that giving in to thugs like the group still firing rockets into Israel has any relation to the UN supllying them with more than $2.5 billion in aid which somehow wound up as ammunition and arms purchases.

Be Christian as well as Scientific and stick with those who are not out to harm you.

Perry Luntz, wounded American serviceman who loves his country even though he's Jewish.

Posted by: PERRY LUNTZ`` at July 19, 2007 04:55 PM

Israel's creation was far from being an injustice. What was the real injustice was those who set the boundaries disregarded what was originally given to Israel. The territory assigned to Israel by God, Creator of heaven and earth, as recorded in the history of the Hebrew people in the Holy Bible, stretches from the 'River of Egypt', not the Nile river, to the Euphrates River, from the Mediterranean to beyond the Jordan River and includes a good part of what is the nations of Jordan and Syria today. Everyone needs to affirm this and get on with life. All who are not willing to live peacefully within these boundaries need to be forcibly relocated elsewhere.

Posted by: Russell Crosby at July 19, 2007 04:56 PM

The creation of the State of Israel is certainly no "injustice". One must consider that not only the current Israel, but even a significantly larger area was first home to Jews, not Arabs.
It wasn't home to any Arabs until the European states created the present Pdalestine as we know it be today.
Some of
the Arabs fled Israel at it's inception due to the uging of the surrounding Arab states claiming that the Iraelies would jail or kill them. Instead the Arabs who remained in Irael are living comfortly in peace wheras those who unwarrently fled are STILL living in terrible hovel camps.
Note that no Arab nation has come to help their own Brothers & Sisters. Most unlike any other civilized nation.
The major portion of the article certainly did have merit. Let's just keep the facts straight

Posted by: Anonymous at July 19, 2007 04:58 PM

I must remind the reader that the Palestinians were "stateless" for many years before the formation of Israel. They were incapable of creating a national government then and are still not up to the job.

Posted by: PS at July 19, 2007 05:01 PM

What an interesting comment! It illustrates, once again, what you'll find if you scratch just below the surface of the "Christian" Science Monitor

Posted by: Sidney Conn at July 19, 2007 05:23 PM

What comes to mind at the CSM article is:
"How odd of God
to choose the Jews" and its counterpart
"No more than choose
the Jewish God but spurn the Jews"

Posted by: Al at July 19, 2007 05:39 PM

News Flash...

Israel was not created by the UN. It was created by HaShem. Does "if I forget thee Jerusalem" ring a bell? The world couldn't care less about the Palestinians prior to the UN charter. But then it's the Arab giants vs. the Israeli Davids. What motivates the Christian Science Monitor that it would side with Hammas and their ilk? Because, my friend, they are coming for you next. Just check with the Christians in Lebanon. If you want to continue to attack Israel perhaps you should turn in your "Christian" Science Monitor membership card and join the Radical Islamic Non-Science Monitor.

Posted by: Moshe Ben Sholom at July 19, 2007 06:05 PM

There is no need to add to the foregoing complaints about "injustice." (Stateless Palestinians have long been a casus belli among Arab terrorists, although removing the injustice done to them by Israel's creation in 1948 has also long been in the interests of the US and Israel, especially since the 1967 war that led Israel to take new territory.)
Who are YOU to determine justice?

Posted by: DR. Robert J. Goldish at July 19, 2007 06:11 PM

There is no need to add to the foregoing complaints about "injustice." (Stateless Palestinians have long been a casus belli among Arab terrorists, although removing the injustice done to them by Israel's creation in 1948 has also long been in the interests of the US and Israel, especially since the 1967 war that led Israel to take new territory.)
Who are YOU to determine justice?

Posted by: DR. Robert J. Goldish at July 19, 2007 06:11 PM

The only injustice that was done to the Palestinians, was done by the Brittish.
When they stole 70% of Palestine and created an artificial Arab country, Trans Jordan,now called Jordan.

Posted by: Jerry Meents at July 19, 2007 06:38 PM

The creation of the nation of Israel is far from an injustice, particularly with respect to the Palestinians.

Israel has done far more to benefit the Palestinians in the areas of education, health care, employment, social services, etc.

When the Palestians were under Jordanian/Egyptian rule in the West Bank and Gaza respectively, they were brutalized their Arab "brothers" for 19 years until 1967. Their children lacked medicine and died from preventable childhood diseases. Their standard of living increased by 200% when Israel took control of Gaza and the Westbank after Israel was attacked from those areas in 1967.

More to the point, calling Israel's creation an "injustice" really goes beyond the pale of respectable journalism.

The injustice plaguing the Palestinians is the culture of hate and violence they are born into. Raising children to kill themselves is injustice. Raising children to serve as cannon fodder or as martyrs for nothing more than the agendas of an incompetent, self-serving, moronic, psychopathic Palestinian leadership is injustice. Children who should be learning about music, art, literature, mathematics, science and philosphy are instead learning how to build bomb vests and assemble AK-47's.

Detrich Bonhoffer once said, "you can judge the morality of a society by what it does for its children."

Posted by: David at July 19, 2007 06:44 PM

For the CSM to call the formation of Israel an justice, is blantly hypocritical and Israel bashing...What about Arab Rockets that kill innocent Israeli citizens not to forget Israeli youngsters...My Christian friends love Israel and its people despising the Arab mayhem that is perpetrated almost on Israel...come on CSM

Posted by: aaron levy at July 19, 2007 07:34 PM

Judea, Samaria & Gazza were all part of the original Jewish land grant. Jorden the largest part was parcelled out to the Arabs. In 1948 combined Islamic armies attacked Israel to steal the Jewish part of the land grant (all of it). They succeded in capturing only the Jewish hartland of Judea, Samaria & Jerusalem. There was never a Palestinian nation. The palestinian people were the Jews, until Arafat stold that designation from Israel. The non people now called Palistinians do not want a state unless it includes all of the Israeli territory that their Islamic backers failed to steal in 1948 & lost in 1967. There will not ever be peaceful co-existance as long as there is an Israel. The CSM needs to stop reading revisionist history & stop pandering to a group of Islamic facists who want to remove their heads as well. What ever happened to truth in reporting?

Posted by: Gershome at July 19, 2007 09:16 PM

Calling Israel an injustice is beneath
criticism, just more bias against Israel
which is plain old fashioned Jew hatred

Posted by: Jerome Wildes at July 19, 2007 09:46 PM

The seven Arab states that attacked Israel in 1948 came not only to finish off Israel, but to grab "Palestine". Isn't that obvious? Egypt from the south, Syria from the north, Jordan from the east, etc. Is Hamas, Palestinian? Did Israel make Arafat and Fatah and Abu Mazen corrupt and weak and useless? If there were no Israel, would the palestinians have a government and leaders to protect them? Is that why Hamas is killing Gazans or maybe you don't care what will happen on the West Bank?

Posted by: Goldie Klugman at July 19, 2007 10:06 PM

Injustice? Yes by the leaders of the Arab world in 1947 They refused to participate in any discussion with leaders of the future Israel for boundaries or a modus vivendi. They didn't have to.They had a plan that whatever the Jews got from the UN they would regain after the British left. They would invade the new, unarmed, refugee, holocaust survivors, who never resisted the Nazi with any organization, with the British Centorian tanks led by British officers, the Arab legion and 5 other armies that outnumbered the wretched Jews 15 to 1 and push them into the sea! Ooops it never happened, not then, nor in 56 nor in 67 nor in 73. It is time that they and the CSM accepted the truth and corrected the injustice of history perversion. Sit down and talk.If things didn't work out the way Arabs expected them it is a disappointment but not an injustice .The cure is talk not suicide bombs.

Posted by: Goldie at July 19, 2007 10:42 PM

The CSM's recent editorial calling Israel's creation an injustice that needs to be rectified by creating a Palestinian State is not legitimate criticism of Israel. Legitimate criticism of Israel would apply the same principles to ALL other nation-states, to Palestinians and Arabs as to Israelis. Their comment about Israel's creation being an injustice is, instead, a "Freudian slip" of the pen, pointing out their own anti-Semitism. I have always noticed a certain smugness directed by the Monitor in its Middle East coverage toward Israel, even if it has not been so smug in regard to Judaism and Jews. Toward Judaism and Jews it just reveals a certain ignorance of history (the plight of the Arab Jews and the record of their persecution and oppression when under Arab rule, for instance) which is not smug, just fatuous. Why insist on a course of logic which will never lead to peace, and hasn't since before the creation of the State of Israel in 1948? Never. Why not apply the same principles to the Arabs--let them make huge compromises and give concessions to Israel in exchange for peace. Hold their feet to the fire as the CSM most arrogantly wants to hold Israel's to the fire. Foremost, force the Arabs to normalize relations with Israel as a condition of recognition to a Palestinian State.

Posted by: Stan Kreis at July 19, 2007 11:27 PM

TO CSM EDITORS

Your editorial on Israel and the Palestinians was anti-semitism and a veiled call for Israel's destruction.

1. The creation of Israel was justice not an 'injustice' as CSM claims. The Jewish people are entitiled to their state, they are indigenous to the area and have lived in Israel far longer than the Arabs. Clearly only Israel's destruction would reverse such a supposed 'injustice'.

2. CSM says 'the U.S. must push Israel to make concessions big enough to satisfy Hamas and 'its backers'! The only 'concession' that will satisfy Hamas and its main backer Iran is Israel's destruction. Again an anti-Jewish demand by CSM.

3. Clinton did not 'fail to forge a compromise between Israel and the Palestinians' as CSM claims. Rather, the Palestinians blew up the Oslo process with a suicide bombing war against Israeli civilians and soldiers.

4. Linking Clinton's supposed 'failure' to the 9/11 attacks is evil and again anti-semitiam. CSM is blaming 'the Jews' - Israel - for 9/11. Even Arafat rejected any link between the conflict with Israel and AL-Qaida's attacks or plans. Bin Laden's goal was to 'remove the infidels from the Moslem holy land' of Saudi Arabia - and the U.S. has shut down its bases there.

5. CSM claims that "Bush virtually ignored the Palestinian issue". On the contrary, despite the challenges posed by the 9/11 attacks, Bush sent envoys to the Middle East and produced 2 separate initiatives, both based on the 'Oslo' demand for an end to Palestinian terror to achieve peace and a two-state solution. The Palestinians refused to give up their terror, as they still do, and both including the 'Road Map' were dead-ends due to Palestinian terror.


There is nothing 'Christian' about this editorial except its anti-Jewish stance. The CSM is an example of left-wing anti-semitism which champions the Palestinians despite their terror while de-legitimising Israel, the world's only Jewish state, as an 'injustice' to those who attaempted to destroy it.

I condemn all at CSM for this evil editorial You might want to imagine a reverse situation: if all of North Africa and most of the Middle East was Jewish, would you call the establsihment of one small Arab state 'an injustice'? I doubt it very much.

Bob Kirk
Los Angeles

Posted by: bob kirk at July 19, 2007 11:49 PM

Your editorial indicates that you have no understanding of the origins, purpose, or methods of jihad.

Jihad is how Muslims seek to extend their rule over other peoples until they rule the world. It has been going on for nearly 1400 years, and there are really no limits to what they are allowed to do in pursuit of their objective.

The welfare of the Palestinian people means nothing to most Muslims, beyond its value for demonizing Israel. Forcing their Muslim brothers to fester in refugee camps is a minor matter to those who think nothing of sending women and children to blow themselves up in restaurants full of civilians. If economic welfare or better social conditions were important to the Palestinians, they would welcome the Israeli "occupation," under which they had the fourth fastest-growing economy on the planet. The data proving this assertion are readily available, even to journalists.

Israel offends the Muslim mentality because its existence indicates that their occupation can be reversed. The concessions you urge President Bush to force on Israel will do nothing but reinforce Muslim perceptions that continued violence will get them what they really want, not an independent Palestinian state, but the end of Israel.

Wishful thinking, which is all your editorial really is, doesn't really cut it in the real world.

Posted by: Ted at July 20, 2007 12:32 AM

The Jews are the indigenous people of Israel/Palestine (and some Jews literally are). They have suffered 1400 years of oppression at the hands of Arab occupiers and colonizers in Israel/Palestine just like the other indigenous peoples in the Middle East who are still suffering under Arab colonization. The birth of the Third Jewish Commonwealth (Israel) was the first step in correcting this injustice.

I don't know who wrote this article, but since it is awash with anti-Semitism, I would guess him to be a European.

Posted by: David at July 20, 2007 01:57 AM

The arab world and the Palestinians in particular seem to think that they can raise themselves by putting Jewish people and the Jewish state down. What in fact has happened is the exact oppposite.

Posted by: Matty R at July 20, 2007 04:09 AM

If Israel's creation by the UN in 1948 was an "injustice", then the failure of the Palestinians to establish their UN-approved state in 1948 was the greatest injustice done to the Palestinians by the Palestinians and their Arab relatives. It was also their greatest stupidity.

Posted by: Milton H. Polin at July 20, 2007 04:24 AM

If the Palestians really wanted their own state, they would have started building one in the two years since the Israeli disengagement from Gaza. Instead, they've stepped up the number of rocket attacks against Israel. It's time to call them what they really are--undeserving animals.

Posted by: Susan Stein at July 20, 2007 09:32 AM

The above editorial is so moronic that at best is frightening and at worst is disgusting but then again whom do you think the self-righteous biased CSM employs? You have totally disregarded history.

Posted by: R,M, Palter at July 20, 2007 11:12 AM

I used to be a Monitor subsciber until I found your attitude towards Israel to be too appalling. There are many peoples in the Middle East who live under Arab rule despite differences in ethnicity, religion, culture, language, or some combination of the above, yet the Monitor doesn't feature their "plight" whether they are Assyrian Christians, Berbers, Coptic Christians, etc. Is it because terrorism works and the Monitor only wishes to propitiate terrorism? Or is it because of the political and market power of Arabs and Moslems? Or is it because of anti-Semitism? I can find no satisfactory moral or intellectual reason for this discrepancy in Monitor Middle East coverage.

Posted by: Michael Cavallo at July 20, 2007 11:25 AM

Very odd your editor calls the creation of the state of Israel an "injustice". Why didn't your editor take off after the criminality of Arafat who both finessed the Oslo agreement and made himself a millionaire on the backs of his own people? Has your editor ever read the charter of Hamas? It clearly states it wants the distruction of Israel!And then what would be the fate of the Israelis? Justice?

Posted by: Betty Rubenstein at July 20, 2007 12:00 PM

When Israel was re-born in 1948, the Jews asked the Arabs to stay while the neighboring Arab countries asked the Arabs to leave. Many left. Conversely, the 1,000,000 Jews in Arab countries were persecuted and forced to leave after 1948.

It should be clear that the Moslems want to get rid of both Jews and Christians no matter where they are located. Your comments obviously do not seem to recognize that.

Posted by: Rabbi Larry Goldstein at July 20, 2007 12:40 PM

What I wrote to the CSM:

To call the establishment of Israel an injustice is absurd and comes very close to being antisemitic. Yes, antisemitic.

It has two of Natan Sharansky's criteria for his 3D test for antisemitism: Demonization, Double-standards, and Delegitimization.

Demonization because it implies that everything wrong with that situation is Israel's fault; that if it were to only do more, than everything will be all right. You're making Israel out to be 'the bad guy' when the Arabs are far, far worse.

Double-standards because it does not hold the Arabs responsible for all the harm they've caused lo these 60+ years. You say Israel needs to be "[pushed] into making major concessions." What concessions have the Arabs ever had to make, or actually have made? They have yet to even implement the first steps in the old "Road Map" from '04.

The only thing you're not doing is delegitimizing Israel, but in this case, 2 out of 3 IS bad.

Shame on you for a totally one-sided, illogical, patently false, and harmful editorial.

Posted by: Grantman at July 20, 2007 01:26 PM

The "injustice" in the Middle East lies in the failure of Arab societies to generate civilized institutions capable of advancing economic activity and providing freedom to all citizens. There is much Arabs could learn from Israelis. There is practically nothing Arabs can teach Jews except irrational hatred. When Palestinians develop competent societies, a two-country solution can be negotiated. Until that time, Israel faces barbaric forces that can be controlled only with the judicious use of power.. From Oslo to the Quartet, Israel has failed to recognize facts, and, with nudging from the United States, is following a path of foolish compromise that probably will lead to Israel's destruction.

Posted by: Thomas Coad at July 20, 2007 01:47 PM

The British in 1917, the League of Nations in 1922, the United Nations in 1947 all called for an independent state in Palestine for the Jewish people.
The world recognized what the CSM sadly sees as a mistake, that the Jewish people deserve their own state in their ancient homeland. Because it was promised to them by HaShem, because Jews were living there for centuries, because large tracts of land in Palestine were purchased by Jewish organizations from Turkish land owners, because Jewish settlers drained swamps and irrigated desserts to make what was wasteland livable and because Jews were subject to restrictions, oppression, pogroms and murder in countries throughout history and were thus deserving of their own state.

Unfortunately CSM sees only the rights of the Palestinian Arabs who have nothing to show for the billions of dollars the international community have given them, except a proclivity to hate and destroy.

Posted by: Conrad Nadell at July 20, 2007 03:57 PM

Your delusional editorial regarding Israel is so absurd that no facts to the contrary can undo your amti-Semitism.

Posted by: George E Ehrlich at July 20, 2007 06:11 PM

When Hamas establishes Sharia law in their territory and does not allow Christians to freely practice their religion(a religion which is tolerated and protected in Israel as are all religions), what will the Christian Science Monitor find to tolerate about Hamas, a group of murderers who drop their own peoiple from buildings and kill them?

Posted by: sheldon g. leibow at July 22, 2007 12:31 PM

The international community, acting through the UN, in 1948 tried to partition the former Palestine into Jewish and Arab-Moslem sectors, an attempt at fairness. The Arabs responded by trying to invade and hold all of the territory, unfairly. The result was a sub-optimum partition, but it wasn't arrived at by and "unjustice done to them" by any party outside of themselves. The injustict was inflicted on Palestinians by Egyptian, Jordanians, Syrians, Lebanese, and, yes, Palestinians.

Posted by: Paul Kronick at July 22, 2007 04:13 PM

Israel, a ridiculously small country compared to any of its arab neighbors if anyone cares to take a look at a regional map, was long ago successful in carrying out the absorption and integration of the thousands of refugee jews that had to leave their homes in the many arab countries of origen after 1948. This Israel has done while it has had to allocate many resources and manpower to its defence and survival.


The so called "stateless Palestinians" that the Christian Science Monitor mentions in its article are only so because of the intransigence of the many arab nations that have seen fit to use them as pawns in their relentless aim to destroy Israel and the Jews. The resources waisted in the many wars the arabs have provoked against Israel and the huge amount of money that the oil rich countries have thrown out trying shore up this state of belligerance against Israel, would have been much better used to absorb the arabs displaced by the very war of anihilation THEY started on Israel in 1948.


The so called "stateles Palestinians" of today are the descendants, about five fold or so the original number, of arabs that back in 1948 lost in the arab's gamble to destroy the survival of a good portion of the remnants of the Jewish People after the Holocaust AND of the Jews that always lived in their ancestral homeland under the rule of the empires du jour from Rome to the Ottoman Turks and Great Britain.

So, if the Cristian Science Monitor is eager to advocate for and remedy real injustices, instead of conveniently perceived ones, why doesn't it stop picking up on the Jews and Israel, and instead speaks about the need for tolerance and acceptance of other faiths, including Christianism in countries like Saudi Arabia. Or, why doesn't the Christian science Monitor take the cause of the persecuted Christians in Sudan, or even the cause of the Black Moslems being massacred by the Arab Moslem militias in Darfur...and these are just a few that come to mind.

As for the Jews worldwide, Israel, and the many Christians that stand alongside with Israel in its struggless for survival, it is certainly a great injustice ON US to have to see editorials like yours being written.

Jose Roitman

Posted by: J.Roitman at July 27, 2007 02:02 AM

Injustice?
it is true that the Jews have always been the ones to suffer, one only needs to be reminded of the horrors of the Holocost! But where does it follow that these injustices are the Arabs fault?Why should Palestinians have paid for Nazi cruelty?

We all know about Jewish suffering but that gives them no right to inflict suffering on Palestinians. Surely of all people the Jews would understand what it is like to have your home taken from you, as it happened to them thousands of years ago in the very same land they drove the Arabs out of. Surely this should secure their sympathy rather than give them a reason to pervert Palestinians rights and take their land.

Sure God gave the land to the Isreali's 2000 years ago. But why should the Palestinians recognise this. It is not their Religion. In Palestinian eyes the Jews have absolutely no religous "claim" to the land that their people have lived in for over 2000 years.

Many lives would have been spared if in 1918 at the Paris Peace Conference; Palestine was given the right to national self-domination as it should have been. Instead Palestine was put under British mandate!

"land without a people for a people without a land."
This piece of Zionist propaganda deeply disgusts and offends me. If they werent people then who did the Israeliā€™s think the Palestinians were- animals? Maybe they did because that is how they treated treated. They came into their province, took our land through a combination of force, terror and lies. When war broke out in 1948, almost a million Palestinians were driven from their homes and relegated those who remained to second-class citizenship.

For years injustices have occured on both sides. It is some ways it has become unclear to where the blame lies!

It is depressing because in the end, you were left with two worlds, where people on both sides ultimately want the same things, but they get caught up in the cycle of violence with no end in sight.

An eye for and eye will leave us all blind

Posted by: Li at September 18, 2007 09:22 AM

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